The Comments NOM Blog Is Likely To Take Down--or Not Approve

I looked at some of the comments posted at: http://www.nomblog.com/7366/ and I am sure that NOM Blog may not let such a well reasoned counterargument prevail on its board. I will check and see maybe tomorrow

Let me address some things people are saying here: Homosexuality being a dead end lifestyle--BS! The stigma created by society on homosexuality is one of the most dangerous things that has been. When those wonderful children committed suicide, every bigot said it's because they 'embraced a deadly lifestyle' Horseshit! It's because of the simple fact that people made it harder for them to live their lives in an open fashion as they deserve

Next, EQUAL UNDER THE LAW MEANS EXACTLY THAT! Those words are not hollow words without meaning and validity in court--that's why the AR Supreme Court struck down Act 1

Also, Anderson v. King County used circular reasoning in reaching the verdict. Reproduction--the fact is, older couples could be denied if marriage were about children. Can you answer this question: Why is marriage law separate from family law? Family law has to do with children, marriage law deals with two parties when they are married to one another

Marriage is a legal status, with religious and civil significance. One doesn't have to be religious to be married. Society also affords divorce as well. Why isn't NOM fighting divorce? Which really takes children from their parents when their parents can't work out their issues? What about really nasty divorces where a child is poisoned regarding their non custodial spouse? I see these things as much more of a danger than two men/women being married and afforded the legal protections that heterosexuals have.

BUT YOU CAN MARRY SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX, IT'S EQUAL!

Bullshit! If a man is irreplaceable to another man, why would you want him to marry a woman? So you would rather see a man go and marry a woman only to divorce and his children later wonder if Daddy loved them? This is another route NOM and supporters doesn't realize happens

Also, the whole right to equality but not results issue that John Noe brings up is simply a trick. I have a right to marry, I have the right to marry a man. Prisoners and interracial couples, interreligious couples have a right to marry each other, the right to marry is the right of PEOPLE, not GROUPS. One can't rationally give a reason why excluding gays from marriage will PROTECT marriage, as marriage was fine before DOMA came along

"Science and biology says so. You cannot reproduce. You have a higher mortality rate and higher chance of sickness and disease." (Quote From John Noe) Gay men can reproduce--and he forgets that it's just not with each other, next higher mortality rate...disease--that's not entirely true. That's like saying black people are at higher risk for HIV/AIDS even if they're using condoms and not putting themselves at risk. What sickness and disease are gays more apt at catching? Colds, cancers, or HIV/AIDS which seem to be the big citation? UNPROTECTED SEX CAUSES HIV/AIDS, NOT A SEXUAL ORIENTATION! Read that out loud if you have trouble understanding

Marty: Dead end lifestyle; I bet those are gay guys who had bad experiences and blamed it on being gay. This happens so many times--it's TIRED!

Next when Zak Jones says: You know I CAN'T marry a woman. That would be a dead end lifestyle for me.

This would be a terrible thing to have to live through. I know of a man who was in a mental ward because he didn't want to admit he was gay. If you don't think that this happens that people harm themselves becuase they don't want to admit they're gay, look at the stories of people who went through Exodus and found their way out of it and listen to the psychological damage it wrought on their lives. Some people have been unable to be intimate with their partners, can't go to gay functions without panicking, etc. This does more harm than good to those who don't wanna be gay.

Mike Brooks:
It's based on marriage and family as the foundation of a stable society where parents take responsibility for their children, children have a mom and a dad, and the government does not need to step in and take care of an overwhelming number of single mothers and children in poverty.

Ok...children need more than a gender. The gov has to step in to take care...poverty--THEN WHY AREN'T YOU FIGHTING AGAINST THE RIGHTS OF SINGLE MOTHERS?!! SSM HASN'T BROUGHT MORE SINGLE MOTHERS INTO A STATE! Next, a child does need male and female influences in their lives--but most of all they need GOOD influences in their lives--the children of gay parents don't live in a vacuum, most likely they can see how straight couples interact and different kinds of straight couples, just like there are gay and lesbian couples

Most of your arguments fall flat because they just don't make sense. Gays and lesbians can continue the family line with surrogacy and adoption. Grandchildren are grandchildren. Procreation has nothing to do with marriage, and neither does marriage have to do with raising a well adjusted child. Being married doesn't make you responsible or mature right away. Saying it does is to ignore the terrible examples in your lives of such people